Quantcast

Betty's Blog

Timely Teacher Talk

Sponsored Links

Okay, here's your diploma

The five Galesburg High School students who were denied their diplomas due to cheering from the crowd now have their diplomas.  (Students and parents had signed contracts stating that they would not make noise when the students walked across the stage.)  The school still plans to work on limiting the noise from the crowds during graduation ceremonies, but didn't receive support for their actions from the media or Illinois State Board of Education.  Add to this an attorney who volunteered to go to bat for the students for free, and the school realized that they were in a "lose lose" situation. 

"It is time for the good of the community, the school district, the families and the students involved to move on," Superintendent Gene Denisar said in a written statement.

Denisar cited talks with the Illinois State Board of Education, which has said it cannot support the district's decorum policy because it makes students responsible for behavior they cannot control, in explaining the decision.

The central Illinois school district about 150 miles southwest of Chicago will continue efforts to make commencement a "respectful and dignified occasion that all graduates and their families can enjoy," school board President Michael Panther said in a statement. Officials did not say how they planned to review the no-cheer policy.

It's nice to know that the students now have their diplomas.  This seemed like a lot of hoopla for nothing.  School officials should think through all scenarios before coming up with rules that are impossible to enforce. 

Posted: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:33 AM by Betty
Comments

Linda said:

So..what the parents and friends did in celebrating is not anything bad... However, the rule was "no celebrating during the ceremony"  Rules are rules, and no one should be above them.  I would not have given in and issued the diplomas. No wonder so many of this nations youth have no respect for rules.

# June 7, 2007 12:02 PM

Robert said:

I agree. Graduations have gotten to be so loud and disorespectfull that you can no longer even here your names being called . These inconsiderate people are the same type that carry on in movie theaters disturbing all the othe patrons . I dont go to movies any more either.

# June 7, 2007 12:49 PM

Ellen said:

I want to commend the Principal, staff and school district.  Respect should be given to every student and their family during the Graduation Ceremony.  I am tired of a bunch of loud mouths who disrespect the rules of the school as well as the other familes and students there that are following the rules.  You are not at some sporting event.  Show a little class in the future.  And to the lawyer who offered to take their case - Shame on you.  You and lawyers like you are the reason we have so many silly and improper lawsuits.  To the students who want an apology from the administration....grow up and learn to follow rules....oh, that's right...you don't know how to follow rules because you don't have good role models!!!

# June 7, 2007 1:20 PM

Elsa said:

So you are saying that everyone should keep there mouths shut!! I don't think so.  For some families graduating from High School is a GREAT accomplishment.  Asking them to keep quiet is impossible and stupid.  

# June 7, 2007 2:10 PM

vern said:

You people must dont have families that care about you.  Obviously these students made great accomplishments and their families were very proud. And what does cheering for your family have to do with NOT GIVING YOU YOUR DIPLOMA.  These student can't control the actions of their family.  This school seems like its still living in the era of Jim Crow Laws!

# June 7, 2007 2:15 PM

vern said:

You people must dont have families that care about you.  Obviously these students made great accomplishments and their families were very proud. And what does cheering for your family have to do with NOT GIVING YOU YOUR DIPLOMA.  These student can't control the actions of their family.  This school seems like its still living in the era of Jim Crow Laws!

# June 7, 2007 2:15 PM

Mystery Teacher said:

I have very mixed feelings about this.  For some of these families it may have been the first time someone in the family graduated.  It also may be as far as they go in the education arena.  However, from our district, you can tell that many people no longer have manners at home or anywhere.  They talk and visit during awards ceremonies, plays, (where their own children are performing!) and during school presentations.  Our principal often has to stop and wait for the PARENTS to stop talking.  It is really rude behavior.  I noticed it beginning about 20 years ago and it is getting worse and worse.  How do we teach children manners when the parents are the worst examples?  I truly think we need lessons for families in how to behave in public.  I think it is one of the reasons students talk to each other instead of listening to a lesson.  We are now trying to become edutainers instead of educators.  Something needs to be done.

# June 7, 2007 2:20 PM

Dane said:

I want to be a Principal and about $100,000.00 per year.  This Principal of a public school should be fired.

# June 7, 2007 2:22 PM

Marti said:

I am an assistant principal in a high school and this was absurd.  The students should never have been held responsible for their parents'/relatives' behavior. It was a "knee jerk" reaction by the administration.

The students deserve an apology.  

The school district needs to meet with folks to see what can be done about disruptions to graduations if it is that out of hand.  The venue where our graduations are held has rules that are enforced by their security (ie:  no air horns, etc.) Just as rules would be enforced at a concert or any other public event. You wouldn't arrest the performers...

# June 7, 2007 2:59 PM

David said:

Students and parents SIGNED they would not be disruptive and didn't live up to their word. Is that a good example? Are those parents better than me if I live up to my promise. I guess someone's word means nothing "Do what you want you are they only one who matters!". My solution is ban all parents from graduation and put them in another room were they cannot disrupt the ceremony.  

# June 7, 2007 3:05 PM

SkrewzieQ said:

    My children attend High School in Kansas City, and I can tell you from experience that the parents show as little if not less self-control than the kids do at school functions.  I go to games and assemblies and awards ceremonies where adults are talking to each other, laughing and carrying on.  Using cell phones...you name it.  They comein late and don't even attempt to be discrete about it.  Its ridiculous to say the least.  

   The one common denominator at school events is the presence of the school security officers.  Around here, these people are actual police officers, assigned to each public school.  Seems to me the answer to the problem of idiotic, ill mannered adults disrupting group events is to establish a policy of removing them if they behave this way.  We all cheer when our kids do well.  There's nothing more wonderful than seeing your child accomplish a goal, but this idea that it warrants some huge over the top "see-me" production number by the spectators is just stupid.  Cheear for a couple seconds and then shut up.  Allow the other kids to enjoy their day too.  

    They should announce from the beginning that cheering and clapping needs to be kept at a minimum, to allow for the ceremony to take place in something of an orderly fashion, and then remove those who act like its their personal moment in the spotlight. I almost always find that the people putting on the biggest shows are really just trrying to get noticed anyway.  They aren't only cheering for their kid.  They are the ones on the cell phones the whole time, talking loudly so anyone around them can't hear what's going on.  I say...put them out.  People will behave with as much or as little self-control as their surrounding permit.  Its human nature.  So...let them know they have to control themselves.

# June 7, 2007 3:39 PM

James said:

I hate to say this...but I agree with the "No Celebrating Rule"!  And my agreement with the schools stance has nothing to do with racism.  I am an African-American that has gotten FED UP with folks that cannot bring themselves to act appropriately at such a dignified event.  Unfortunatly the kids in the picture are African-American...but I'm sure that Caucasian kids somewhere may face this problem as well for thier families lack of class and self-control.

It's not just the noise.  Folks show up dressed inappropriately...like they are going to the movies or a football game.  And the Mystery Teacher above is right.  This has been brewing over the last 20 years.

It's not just about race.  Our values have gone down the toilet.  There was a time that graduations, especially for Black Folk, MEANT something.  Back in the day, regardless of our education or socio-economic status; family and friends put on our "Sunday Best" for such occasions and carried ourselves in a dignfied manner.

Mabey the rule seems over-the-top, but I must admit that it has had a positive impact on restoring the formality back in our commencement ceremonies.

# June 7, 2007 3:46 PM

R Stone said:

How can one be responsible for the actions of others?

The policy was unenforcable and threatening to those that cannot be held responsible for actions of their elders less alone their peers.  As John Stossell would say "GIVE ME A BREAK!".

# June 7, 2007 7:24 PM

John Spencer said:

I'm surprised by some of the comments.  A few of them are really racist.  A few of them are very rational.  I think the ruling was a bad idea.  I don't by into the philosophy that "rules are rules."  There needs to be an underlying ethical component.  The most reasonable enforcement would have been to escort the family who cheered during the ceremony and bar them from further public functions.  That way, they wouldn't get in the way of the ceremony, but the graduates would still earn their diplomas.

# June 8, 2007 8:50 AM

mz.w said:

having just gone to an 8th grade graduation and having experienced nothing but chit-chat during the entire ceremony--student and adult speakers alike were ignored by the crowd--i sympathize w/the need for some kind of accountability, but holding the diplomas from the students doesn't make sense. escorting out the family members who disturb does. but then, how do you escort 80% of the crowd away from the event(since our metricualtion ceremony is held on the field)? and a veteran teacher of 20+ years also mentioned how it always seems to be the jerks who get the loudest cheers. apples don't fall very far from trees.

# June 9, 2007 2:05 AM

Txteacher said:

That's it in a nut shell, the morals of our society have gone down the toilet. People no longer have manners, morals, principles, or values. The only think of themselves in these and all situations.  

# June 11, 2007 1:06 AM

Txteacher said:

That's it in a nut shell, the morals of our society have gone down the toilet. People no longer have manners, morals, principles, or values. The only think of themselves in these and all situations.  

# June 11, 2007 1:06 AM

MysteryTeacher said:

I re-read everything and I did not feel anything said was racist.  Why are we putting labels on this?  Racist was the fact the the children whose families were penalized were all minority!  Where were the white parents from that graduation?  They probably were cheering too.  Why weren't they "caught?"

# June 11, 2007 11:19 AM

Betty said:

I did delete one comment that was racist because I felt that it was not appropriate for this site.  I would have done it earlier but didn't see it due to a doctor's appointment. According to the article, the five students who did not receive diplomas were the ones that the authorities felt generated the most noise from the crowd.  It's really hard to make decisions like that based on the personal opinions of those in charge.  I would hate to think that someone would just make noise and cause another person to not receive a diploma.  They might even do this if they didn't like a particular person.  When I was in high school, there were students who voted for unpopular people for cheerleader as a joke.  They got together and planned the whole thing.  This kind of behavior is difficult to control.  

# June 11, 2007 5:05 PM
New Comments to this post are disabled.